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Re: optimal encoding of SIMD insns


>>> On 20.11.17 at 14:22, <hjl.tools@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 20.11.17 at 13:55, <hjl.tools@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>>>> H.J.,
>>>>
>>>> one more sub-optimal thing I've come across, int the context of my
>>>> analysis of whether Vec_Disp8 really is fully redundant with
>>>> DispMemShift: Certain instructions, for example
>>>>
>>>>         vaddps  xmm0, xmm0, [eax+0x80]
>>>>
>>>> are encodable with both VEX and EVEX. Generally the assembler
>>>> tries to pick the shortest encoding. Obviously the VEX encoding,
>>>> due to requiring the Disp32 ModR/M form, is longer than the
>>>> EVEX one in the specific example above. Clearly such a
>>>> conversion can't be done unilaterally, as that could break code
>>>> assuming to be run on AVX-512-incapable hardware. However,
>>>> does anything speak against doing so after having seen a
>>>> command line option or directive explicitly enabling AVX-512
>>>> insns? Or should this instead be made even more explicit, by
>>>> introducing something paralleling the automatic SSE->AVX
>>>> conversion?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Have you looked at
>>>
>>> commit 86fa6981e7487e2c2df4337aa75ed2d93c32eaf2
>>> Author: H.J. Lu <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
>>> Date:   Thu Mar 9 09:58:46 2017 -0800
>>>
>>>     X86: Add pseudo prefixes to control encoding
>>>
>>>     Many x86 instructions have more than one encodings.  Assembler picks
>>>     the default one, usually the shortest one.  Although the ".s", ".d8"
>>>     and ".d32" suffixes can be used to swap register operands or specify
>>>     displacement size, they aren't very flexible.  This patch adds pseudo
>>>     prefixes, {xxx}, to control instruction encoding.  The available
>>>     pseudo prefixes are {disp8}, {disp32}, {load}, {store}, {vex2}, {vex3}
>>>     and {evex}.  Pseudo prefixes are preferred over the ".s", ".d8" and
>>>     ".d32" suffixes, which are deprecated.
>>
>> Yes, but that requires explicit action on part of the programmer or
>> compiler on every individual affected insn. Especially for the latter I
>> doubt it will (or even should) emit such pseudo prefixes.
>>
> 
> You were asking " command line option or directive".  Does above
> cover the "directive" part?

No - the pseudo prefixes need to be used per insn. A directive would
be something similar to .sse2avx, covering all subsequent insns.

> We currently have
> 
>  -mavxscalar=[128|256]   encode scalar AVX instructions with specific vector
>                            length
>   -mevexlig=[128|256|512] encode scalar EVEX instructions with specific vector
>                            length
>   -mevexwig=[0|1]         encode EVEX instructions with specific EVEX.W value
>                            for EVEX.W bit ignored instructions
>   -mevexrcig=[rne|rd|ru|rz]
>                           encode EVEX instructions with specific EVEX.RC value
>                            for SAE-only ignored instructions
> 
> We can add one mapped to {vex2}, {vex3}, {evex} directives.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you're trying to suggest, or
how that is related to the original question.

Jan


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