Re: Fwd: Re: Upset

[Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha at cs dot nyu dot edu>]

On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, James R. Phillips wrote:

> --- Igor Pechtchanski  wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:07:10 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Igor Pechtchanski
> > To: "James R. Phillips"
> > CC: cygwin-apps@XXXXXX.XXX

Umm...

> > Subject: Re: Upset (was Re: [ITP] libmad/libmad0/libmad-devel: A high-quality
> > MPEG audio decoder
> >
> > On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, James R. Phillips wrote:
> >
> > > --- Charles Wilson  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Side note: I often use an old copy of upset to generate setup.ini's for
> > > > my locally built packages which I store in a cygwin/release tree on my
> > > > private server, and add that URI to my setup.exe's URI list.  I once
> > > > advocated ("RFD: A modest proposal #2: unsupported"
> > > > http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-04/msg00306.html) having an
> > > > 'unsupported' tree on the official mirrors similar to the existing
> > > > 'release' tree but that was shot down for good reason.  IIRC at some
> > > > point in the discussion it was pointed out that the existing
> > > > functionality in setup was sufficient to solve the problem I described,
> > > > and much more flexible, and did not require official sanction from the
> > > > cygwin mirror system.
> > >
> > > How nice for you, and other long-time cygwin developers/packagers that
> > > have been grandfathered into this arrangement, because you downloaded
> > > upset when it was available, which it is not now, thus reducing the
> > > testability and quality of packages built by those not having this
> > > resource.  It must be wonderful to have powerful tools like this - kind
> > > of like having unix available in windows.
> >
> > I've asked this before, and didn't quite understand the rationale for
> > pulling upset from CVS (I *could* understand not accepting patches for it,
> > and vetoing attempts to add it to the distribution).  Upset is a tool that
> > lets others generate external mirrors with their own packages; keeping it
> > on sourceware essentially guarantees that those mirrors will have the
> > format compatible with setup.exe.  Perhaps we could bring it back as a
> > tool to aid packagers, with the comment at the top that it's not to be
> > changed or released by anyone except CGF?
> >
> > FWIW, googling for "cygwin setup upset" brings up two versions: Yaakov's
> > (at cygwin-ports.sourceforge.net), and Reini's (at xarch.tu-graz.ac.at).
> > HTH,
> > 	Igor
>
> Both these sites look interesting, and are probably of interest to a wider
> audience.  I only find a version of upset at xarch.tu-graz.ac.at.

Huh?  Do you mean that the upset script on Yaakov's site doesn't have a
version number?  Because there certainly is an upset script at
<http://cygwin-ports.sourceforge.net/install/>.
	Igor
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