Re: Fwd: Re: Upset

[Christopher Faylor <cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please at cygwin dot com>]

On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 08:26:51AM +0200, Reini Urban wrote:
>James R. Phillips schrieb:
>>--- Igor Pechtchanski  wrote:
>>
>>>Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:07:10 -0400 (EDT)
>>>From: Igor Pechtchanski 
>>>To: "James R. Phillips" 
>>>CC: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
>>>Subject: Re: Upset (was Re: [ITP] libmad/libmad0/libmad-devel: A 
>>>high-quality
>>>MPEG audio decoder
>>>
>>>On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, James R. Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>>>--- Charles Wilson  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Side note: I often use an old copy of upset to generate setup.ini's for
>>>>>my locally built packages which I store in a cygwin/release tree on my
>>>>>private server, and add that URI to my setup.exe's URI list.  I once
>>>>>advocated ("RFD: A modest proposal #2: unsupported"
>>>>>http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-04/msg00306.html) having an
>>>>>'unsupported' tree on the official mirrors similar to the existing
>>>>>'release' tree but that was shot down for good reason.  IIRC at some
>>>>>point in the discussion it was pointed out that the existing
>>>>>functionality in setup was sufficient to solve the problem I described,
>>>>>and much more flexible, and did not require official sanction from the
>>>>>cygwin mirror system.
>>>>How nice for you, and other long-time cygwin developers/packagers that
>>>>have been grandfathered into this arrangement, because you downloaded
>>>>upset when it was available, which it is not now, thus reducing the
>>>>testability and quality of packages built by those not having this
>>>>resource.  It must be wonderful to have powerful tools like this - kind
>>>>of like having unix available in windows.
>>>I've asked this before, and didn't quite understand the rationale for
>>>pulling upset from CVS (I *could* understand not accepting patches for it,
>>>and vetoing attempts to add it to the distribution).  Upset is a tool that
>>>lets others generate external mirrors with their own packages; keeping it
>>>on sourceware essentially guarantees that those mirrors will have the
>>>format compatible with setup.exe.  Perhaps we could bring it back as a
>>>tool to aid packagers, with the comment at the top that it's not to be
>>>changed or released by anyone except CGF?
>>>
>>>FWIW, googling for "cygwin setup upset" brings up two versions: Yaakov's
>>>(at cygwin-ports.sourceforge.net), and Reini's (at xarch.tu-graz.ac.at).
>>>HTH,
>>>	Igor
>>>-- 
>>
>>Both these sites look interesting, and are probably of interest to a wider
>>audience.  I only find a version of upset at xarch.tu-graz.ac.at.  
>
>This is not a good version.  I still keep it because I use it to
>crosscheck, but the official genini is better.  Mine has some mksetup
>helper.

Why are you responding to a 1.5 year old message?

cgf