Re: Installing cygwin/xfree

[Chris Faylor <cgf at cygnus dot com>]

Suhaib,
I have twice added IP addresses to our database to allow you to
post.  I have, in fact, specifically added 24.93.67.91 as an IP
address which you are allowed to use.

However, the email address which is allowed through on this IP
address is ssiddiqi@nc.rr.com.  I think that makes sense since
this is apparenly a mail relay for rr.com, not inspirepharm.com.

However, it looks like this email had "ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com"
as the From: address which will be blocked.

Are you telling me that I should add ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com to
the white list, too, or is this a mistake?

As far as not being "in the mood" to answer several mailboxes,
AFAICT, you already are and that is what caused this problem.

cgf

On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 09:56:15PM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:
>Hello Richard,
>
>Well, ORBS blocks my personal e-mails, therefore following bounced back.
>I am really not in the mood of maintaing several mailboxes so I can answe=
>r
>e-mails to cygwin-xfree list. My options now are I would not answer mess=
>ages
>from cygwin-xfree=3D list if I could not post using my normal accounts.
>
>Below is a response to the message I attemoted to post yesterday.  You have to
>read the whole message which Cygnus server bounced to get an answer.
>
>Suhaib
>
>=======================================================================
>Hi. This is the qmail-send program at sourceware.cygnus.com.
>I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following address=
>es.
>This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
><cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com>:
>=
>
>In an effort to cut down on our spam intake we block email from
>certain lists and unfortunately you have just discovered the hard
>way that sometimes non-spam mail gets caught accidentally.
>In most cases you can clear this up by an upgrade to your mail
>server or sometimes by getting an erroneous listing removed.
>For more information about our use of these lists, see
>http://sourceware.cygnus.com/lists.html#rbls
>=
>
>The IP number that I'm denying mail from is 24.93.67.51
>The list that you're on is ORBS. See:
>http://www.orbs.org/verify.cgi?address=3D24.93.67.51
>for more information about this list and why you are on it.
>=
>
>> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>> =
>
>> Return-Path: <ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com>
>> Received: (qmail 5118 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 01:04:00 -0000=
>
>> Received: from fe4.southeast.rr.com (HELO mail4.nc.rr.com) (24.93.67.51=
>)
>> by sourceware.cygnus.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 01:04:00 -0000
>> Received: from hunda ([24.25.25.47]) by mail4.nc.rr.com with =
>
>> Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35);
>> Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:03:59 -0400
>> From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" <ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com>
>> To: <cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>> Subject: RE: Installing cygwin/xfree
>> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:05:32 -0700
>> Message-ID: <KIEIIMKGOIEFAFBFCHHIMEDECAAA.ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com>
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>> The F77 port to Windows using G77 should be straight forward. I =
>
>> have ported
>> several 3D graphics software to Windows using G77.
>> =
>
>> The XGGI should work. You need libGGI suite. Please do a search on
>> cygwin-xfree mail archive. I do not have link handy right now.
>> Also on the FAQ you will find some relevent info about using XGGI. XGG=
>I
>> uses libGGI and DirectX interface to libGGI. Once those libraries
>> are installed you could start XGGI X-server using the following command=
>=2E
>> =
>
>> ./XGGI -targets directx
>> =
>
>> a.. John Fortin port of DirectX for Cygwin. It is available at
>> http://pws.prserv.net/thefortins/cyg-directx.html You need only =
>
>> this if you
>> wish to compile XGGI from source.
>> a.. Installation libGGi requires editing the libGGi config =
>
>> files, which had
>> been discussed on the list several times, again I do not have link hand=
>y
>> right now.
>> =
>
>> If you code is using X server, you should link your executables to
>> /usr/X11R6/libX11.a after installing the cygwin-xfree. The archive you=
>
>> downloaded
>> (cygwin-xfree-x11r6.4-cygwin-b20.1.tar.bz2) contains no X-server. =
>
>> It is has
>> only headers, libs and Xclients for developement purpose.
>> =
>
>> As you noticed, on the URL, servers are very buggy.
>> There is another link you can consider http://win32-xfree.sourceforge.n=
>et.
>> This site is dedicated to Win32 native ports of
>> X11R6.x and X-server using MingW32 and/or MSVC. BUT the X-server on th=
>e
>> above mentioned site is also buggy too.
>> =
>
>> Feel free to ask questions at this list. I will do my best to help you=
>=2E
>> =
>
>> Suhaib
>> =
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of =
>
>> Richard.GRENON
>> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:42 PM
>> To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> Subject: Installing cygwin/xfree
>> =
>
>> =
>
>> I am not a developper but just a humble user coming from the Unix wor=
>ld.
>> For my first contact with the PC world and Windows, I am trying to inst=
>all
>> on my new laptop a 3D graphic code that I had written under Unix. The m=
>ain
>> 3D part of this code is written in Fortran and its very simple 2D graph=
>ic
>> interface is written in C with X11 routines. First I installed a Salfor=
>d
>> Fortran 77 compiler working in a DOS window, then I installed =
>
>> cygwin_b20 (or
>> b20.1, I am not sure, but it seems to me that it was from the =
>
>> last full.exe
>> file a few days ago) to have the gcc compiler. Installation of Cygwin f=
>rom
>> the full.exe file was very easy. Both Salford ftn77 and Cygwin =
>
>> gcc compilers
>> are working well in a Cygnus window with bash and I can easily mix Fort=
>ran
>> and C routines. Salford and Cygwin are exactly what I needed.
>> =
>
>> The problems came when I tried to install cygwin/xfree, because my
>> knowledge about administration of operating systems and X11 is really n=
>ear
>> zero! I have downloaded the cygwin-xfree-x11r6.4-cygwin-b20.1.tar.bz2
>> archive, installed X11R6.4 in /usr, put /usr/X11R6.4/bin in my PATH
>> variable, but I could not run any X11 utility, such as xterm : Can't op=
>en
>> Display! I guessed that this was because no X server was defined, so I
>> downloaded XGGI.exe, although I have read on the web that most of the X=
>
>> servers for cygwin/xfree are still buggy (Use at your own risk !!!). I =
>put
>> XGGI.exe in /usr/X11R6.4/bin and made X as a link to XGGI.exe. Then
>> remembering some features of X11 under Unix, I tried to start X11 with =
>xdm
>> or xinit. I could not use xdm (only root can use xdm, so how can I defi=
>ne
>> root ?) and xinit failed (LIBGG.0.0.6.DLL not found!). I have =
>
>> spent several
>> hours on the web with a very bad connection, even on mirrors sites, I h=
>ave
>> read some FAQ and all information that I could reach, but I could =
>
>> not find a
>> clear X11 installation guide for beginners or an automatic =
>
>> installation file
>> such as the full.exe that I used for cygwin_b20. I should like to downl=
>oad
>> only the binaries as I did for cygwin_b20, but what is not very clear i=
>s
>> what should I download to make X11 work. Each readme file for a =
>
>> binary says
>> that you need some other stuff from another place and it is very diffic=
>ult
>> to have a clear overview of the minimum package that you really need.
>> =
>
>> Of course, I could rebuild the 2D interface of my code with some Fort=
>ran
>> graphic routines that are available in Salford ftn77, but I should like=
>to
>> keep the X11 features of my code. My laptop is a Compaq Presario =
>
>> 1800-XL182
>> with a Pentium III processor at 500 MHz, 64 Mb memory and an ATI =
>
>> 3D Rage LT
>> PRO AGP 2X video card working with Windows 98. If anybody at =
>
>> cygwin can help
>> me, my question is very simple : what should I do to make X11 work on m=
>y
>> laptop (I guess the answer would not be so simple ...) or where =
>
>> can I found
>> the information ? Thank you in advance for helping me getting out of th=
>e
>> tunnel, or at least for giving me some light.
>> =
>
>> Best regards
>> =
>
>> Richard Grenon
>> 40 Avenue de la Division Leclerc
>> 92320 Ch=E2tillon
>> e-mail : Richard.GRENON@wanadoo.fr
>> =
>
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>> =
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>> size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D=
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>> size=3D3D2>The=3D20
>> XGGI should work.  You need libGGI suite.  Please do a search=
>=3D
>> on=3D20
>> cygwin-xfree mail archive.  I do not have link handy right=3D20
>> now.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D=
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>> on the FAQ you will find some relevent info about using XGGI.  XGG=
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>> uses=3D20
>> libGGI and DirectX interface to libGGI. Once those =3D
>> libraries</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D=
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>> size=3D3D2>are=3D20
>> installed you could start XGGI X-server using the following=3D20
>> command.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D=
>#0000ff =3D
>> =
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>> size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D=
>#0000ff =3D
>> size=3D3D2>./XGGI=3D20
>> -targets directx</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D=
>#0000ff =3D
>> =
>
>> size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000>
>> <LI>John Fortin port of DirectX for Cygwin.  It is available at <A=
>=3D20
>> href=3D3D"http://pws.prserv.net/thefortins/cyg-directx.html">http://pws=
>=2Eprs=3D
>> erv.net/thefortins/cyg-directx.html</A>=3D20
>> <FONT style=3D3D"COLOR: red" color=3D3Dred>You need only this if you wi=
>sh to =3D
>> compile=3D20
>> </FONT><A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"ftp://sourceware.cygnus.com/pub/cygwin/xfree/xc-4/"><?xml:nam=
>espa=3D
>> ce prefix=3D20
>> =3D3D an ns =3D3D "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:lmrt" /><an:actor=3D20
>> style=3D3D"VERTICAL-ALIGN: bottom; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; HEIGHT: 1px"=3D20
>> t:timeline=3D3D"par">XGGI from source</an:actor></A>. </LI>
>> <LI><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000>Installation libGGi requires =3D=
>
>> editing the=3D20
>> libGGi  config files, which had been discussed on the list several=
>=3D
>> times,=3D20
>> again I do not have link handy right now.</SPAN></LI></DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000></SPAN> </DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D=
>#0000ff =3D
>> size=3D3D2>If you=3D20
>> code is using X server, you should link your executables to =3D
>> /usr/X11R6/libX11.a=3D20
>> after installing the cygwin-xfree.  The archive you=3D20
>> downloaded</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D=
>#0000ff =3D
>> size=3D3D2>(<FONT=3D20
>> color=3D3D#000000>cygwin-xfree-x11r6.4-cygwin-b20.1.tar.bz2) contains n=
>o=3D20
>> X-server.  It is has only headers, libs and Xclients for =3D
>> developement=3D20
>> purpose.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2=
>>As you =3D
>> noticed, on=3D20
>> the URL, servers are very buggy.  </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2=
>>There =3D
>> is another=3D20
>> link you can consider <A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"http://win32-xfree.sourceforge.net">http://win32-xfree.source=
>forg=3D
>> e.net</A>. This=3D20
>> site is dedicated to Win32 native ports of</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D
>> size=3D3D2>X11R6.x and X-server=3D20
>> using MingW32 and/or MSVC.  BUT the X-server on the above mentione=
>d =3D
>> site is=3D20
>> also buggy too.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2=
>>Feel =3D
>> free to ask=3D20
>> questions at this list.  I will do my best to help =3D
>> you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
>> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D268015603-29042000><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D2>Suhaib</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>> <DIV></SPAN> </DIV>
>> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20
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>> <DIV class=3D3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3D3Dltr align=3D3Dleft><FONT =
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>> face=3D3DTahoma=3D20
>> size=3D3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=3D20
>> cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com=3D20
>> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]<B>On Behalf Of=3D20=
>
>> </B>Richard.GRENON<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 28, 2000 5:42=3D20
>> PM<BR><B>To:</B> cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com<BR><B>Subject:</B=
>> =3D
>> =
>
>> Installing cygwin/xfree<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am not a developper but just a=
>=3D
>> humble user=3D20
>> coming from the Unix world. For my first contact with the PC world an=
>d =3D
>> =
>
>> Windows, I am trying to install on my new laptop a 3D graphic code =3D=
>
>> that I had=3D20
>> written under Unix. The main 3D part of this code is written in =3D
>> Fortran and=3D20
>> its very simple 2D graphic interface is written in C with X11 =3D
>> routines. First=3D20
>> I installed a Salford Fortran 77 compiler working in a DOS window, =3D=
>
>> then I=3D20
>> installed cygwin_b20 (or b20.1, I am not sure, but it seems to me tha=
>t =3D
>> it was=3D20
>> from the last full.exe file a few days ago) to have the gcc =3D
>> compiler.=3D20
>> Installation of Cygwin from the full.exe file was very easy. Both =3D=
>
>> Salford=3D20
>> ftn77 and Cygwin gcc compilers are working well in a Cygnus window =3D=
>
>> with bash=3D20
>> and I can easily mix Fortran and C routines. Salford and =3D=
>
>> Cygwin are=3D20
>> exactly what I needed.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The problems came when I tried t=
>o =3D
>> install=3D20
>> cygwin/xfree, because my knowledge about administration of =3D
>> operating=3D20
>> systems and X11 is really near zero! I have downloaded the=3D20
>> cygwin-xfree-x11r6.4-cygwin-b20.1.tar.bz2 archive, installed X11R6.4 =
>=3D
>> in /usr,=3D20
>> put /usr/X11R6.4/bin in my PATH variable, but I could not run any X11=
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>> utility,=3D20
>> such as xterm : Can't open Display! I guessed that this was =3D
>> because no X=3D20
>> server was defined, so I downloaded XGGI.exe, although I have read on=
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>> the web=3D20
>> that most of the X servers for cygwin/xfree are still buggy (Use at =3D=
>
>> your own=3D20
>> risk !!!). I put XGGI.exe in /usr/X11R6.4/bin and made X as a link to=
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>> XGGI.exe. Then remembering some features of X11 under Unix, I tried t=
>o =3D
>> start=3D20
>> X11 with xdm or xinit. I could not use xdm (only root can use xdm, so=
>=3D
>> how can=3D20
>> I define root ?) and xinit failed (LIBGG.0.0.6.DLL not found!). =
>I =3D
>> have=3D20
>> spent several hours on the web with a very bad connection, even on =3D=
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>> mirrors=3D20
>> sites, I have read some FAQ and all information that I could reach, =3D=
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>> but I=3D20
>> could not find a clear X11 installation guide for beginners or an =3D=
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>> automatic=3D20
>> installation file such as the full.exe that I used for cygwin_b20. I =
>=3D
>> should=3D20
>> like to download only the binaries as I did for cygwin_b20, but what =
>=3D
>> is not=3D20
>> very clear is what should I download to make X11 work. Each readme =3D=
>
>> file for a=3D20
>> binary says that you need some other stuff from another place =3D
>> and it is=3D20
>> very difficult to have a clear overview of the minimum package that =3D=
>
>> you really=3D20
>> need.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Of course, I could rebuild the 2=
>D =3D
>> interface of my=3D20
>> code with some Fortran graphic routines that are available in Salford=
>=3D
>> ftn77,=3D20
>> but I should like to keep the X11 features of my code. My laptop is a=
>=3D
>> Compaq=3D20
>> Presario 1800-XL182 with a Pentium III processor at 500 MHz, 64 Mb =3D=
>
>> memory and=3D20
>> an ATI 3D Rage LT PRO AGP 2X video card working with Windows 98.=
>=3D
>> If=3D20
>> anybody at cygwin can help me, my question is very simple : what =3D
>> should I do=3D20
>> to make X11 work on my laptop (I guess the answer would not be so =3D=
>
>> simple ...)=3D20
>> or where can I found the information ? Thank you in advance for =3D
>> helping me=3D20
>> getting out of the tunnel, or at least for giving me some =3D
>> light.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Best regards</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Richard Grenon<BR>40 Avenue de l=
>a =3D
>> Division=3D20
>> Leclerc<BR>92320 Ch=3DE2tillon<BR>e-mail : <A=3D20
>> =3D
>> href=3D3D"mailto:Richard.GRENON@wanadoo.fr">Richard.GRENON@wanadoo.fr</=
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