Re: Rootless mode revisited...

[Harold L Hunt II <huntharo at msu dot edu>]

Heh heh... as you will see from my reply that I just sent to MATSUZAKI's 
post, I missed his email, or I saw it but I didn't realize that he wrote 
a patch for rootless mode.

Very cool.

Harold

Thomas Chadwick wrote:

> In response to your first question - the patch isn't in CVS.  I pulled 
> the source from CVS, applied the patch that was posted to the ML, then 
> built it.  Sorry if that wasn't clear.
>
> As for your other 2 questions - I don't have an answer.
>
> The fact that Matsuzaki posted this patch came as a complete surprise 
> to me.  I had every intention of developing and experimenting with 
> such a patch myself.  He just beat me to it.
>
> > From: Harold L Hunt II <huntharo@msu.edu>
> > Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited...
> > Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:26:20 -0400
> >
> > Thomas,
> >
> > What CVS tree did you pull this from?  Why isn't MATSUZAKI working 
> > with us?  If I recall correctly, he wrote the Unicode support for 
> > xwinclip, right?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > Thomas Chadwick wrote:
> >
> > > I tried out this patch (took a few days because I needed to get 
> > > xfree86 out of CVS and build it).  Very cool.  Thanks a bunch to 
> > > MATSUZAKI for coding it!  You saved me a lot of work.
> > >
> > > Here's a screenshot...
> > >
> > > http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/pseudo_rootless_screenshot.gif
> > >
> > > Notice that you can see IE in the background along with some Windows 
> > > desktop icons down the left side of the screen.  The windows in the 
> > > forground are Xclients (namely xterm, xclock, and xeyes).  The icon 
> > > in the lower left is an iconified Xclient.
> > >
> > > However, I noticed a few strange artifacts of this approach to 
> > > rootless mode...
> > >
> > > 1) When you click and drag on an Xwindow to move it, you only see 
> > > the bits and pieces of the "rubber band" outline which happen to 
> > > overlap the other Xwindows.  Where the rubber band overlaps Windows 
> > > windows, you see nothing.
> > >
> > > 2) Now that there is no root window, you can't use the XWindows 
> > > window manager's root-window menus.
> > >
> > > 3) A favorite tool of mine, x2x, is broken, which is due to the lack 
> > > of a root window causing the mouse focus to jump back and forth 
> > > XWindows and Windows.
> > >
> > >
> > > Still, if anyone wants to try it out, here's a binary that I built 
> > > last night from source I pulled from CVS yesterday...
> > >
> > > http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/XWin.exe
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke <zakki@peppermint.jp>
> > > > Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited...
> > > > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:30:50 +0900
> > > >
> > > > Thomas didn't talk about X Shape Extension.
> > > > I think Thomas's idea is something like this.
> > > >
> > > > With this patch and "-nodecoration" option, it seems to work good.
> > > >
> > > > << pseudo-rootless.patch >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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