Re: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed....

[Harold L Hunt II <huntharo at msu dot edu>]

Biju,

Biju G C wrote:
> Early,  
>   currenly -rootless option will prevent showing the root window.
>   (I prefer showing root window as in -multiwindow option 
>    but I face some problem while draging in -multiwindow mode)
>    

You should not use -rootless and -multiwindow together.  They are not 
compatible.

> Harold,
>   can we have an option at "control box menu" of Cygwin/XFree86
>   to switch -rootless option on/off

Easy to talk about... but still takes many hours to implement.

Harold

> cheers
> biju
>
> PS: control box menu :- 
> the menu we see when we right click a taskbar item.
> to do "Restore", "Move", "Size", "Close" etc.
>
>
> --- Harold L Hunt II <huntharo at msu dot edu> wrote:
>
> > Early,
> >
> > Early Ehlinger wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry for the repost - It's been a few days and I haven't seen my original
> > > post show up on the newsserver, so....
> > >
> > > OK,
> > >
> > > Just installed latest cygwin+Xfree86.  With the -multiwindow option in place
> > > it's *extremely* close to what I really want, which is an X server that
> > > really feels like it's a part of Windows.  Right now it still betrays the
> > > fact that it sits on top of cygwin, which is a shame, IMHO.
> > >
> > > Here are the two things that I think keep it from being exactly dead-on:
> > >
> > > 1. Root Window is still there.
> > >
> > > Ideally, when -multiwindow is used, no root window would be visible at all.
> > > No icon in the taskbar, nothing.  I suppose a tray icon would be acceptible,
> > > but would certainly not be preferable.  My reasoning for this is that
> > > Windows already has a root window (the desktop) and to be fully integrated,
> > > X programs should behave like Windows programs and use it.  Or at least,
> > > they should *appear* to use it.  Bottom line, get rid of/hide the root
> > > window in -multiwindow mode and you've made a *huge* step forward.
> >
> > Ideally, you will be spending a few hours looking at hiding the root 
> > window.  :)  Search the mailing list archives for information on why it 
> > is not hidden yet.  Also note that MultiWindow mode is still 
> > experimental.  That is, it is not complete.
> >
> >
> > > Another consequence of this issue is that Cygwin/XFree86 shows up in the
> > > alt+tab list even though you don't do anything with it directly.
> > >
> > > 2. Applications have the wrong icons
> > >
> > > Sure, now I've got my apps all running on the honest-to-goodness Windows
> > > desktop, but they all have the X icon rather than the icons that they would
> > > have on an actual X desktop (e.g., the one in Linux).  This is more of a
> > > cosmetic issue than a functional one, so I'd say that it should get less
> > > priority than the first issue above.
> >
> > This wouldn't be too tough to implement, but I haven't got time for it.
> >
> >
> > > If somebody wants to point me to the general location in XWin's source, I
> > > wouldn't mind taking a crack at implementing a fix for both of these issues.
> >
> > First, check the Contributor's Guide, which tells you how to get the 
> > source, the architecture of the server (doesn't talk about MultiWindow 
> > mode), and how to build the source:
> >
> > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/
> >
> >
> > Perhaps you are using Cygwin/XFree86 for commercial purposes... if that 
> > is the case then I know that either myself, Kensuke Matsuzaki (the 
> > developer of MultiWindow mode), or others may be interested in working 
> > on these features for a fee.  Let us know if you are interested, 
> > otherwise we will assume that you are not interested.
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
> > > Thanks in advance
>
>
>
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