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Re: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed....
- From: "Harold" <huntharo at excite dot com>
- To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com
- Cc: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com
- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:38:58 -0400 (EDT)
- Subject: Re: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed....
- Reply-to: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com
- Reply-to: huntharo at excite dot com
BULLSHIT HEHEHEHE
-----Original Message-----
From: cygwin-xfree-owner at cygwin dot com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner at cygwin dot com] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 6:09 PM
To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com
Subject: Re: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed....
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 03:56:42PM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
>>can we have an option at "control box menu" of Cygwin/XFree86 to switch
>>-rootless option on/off
>
>Easy to talk about... but still takes many hours to implement.
It's been many hours since that message. I assume you're nearing completion,
right? :-)
cgf
Biju,
Biju G C wrote:
> Early,
> currenly -rootless option will prevent showing the root window.
> (I prefer showing root window as in -multiwindow option
> but I face some problem while draging in -multiwindow mode)
>
You should not use -rootless and -multiwindow together. They are not
compatible.
> Harold,
> can we have an option at "control box menu" of Cygwin/XFree86
> to switch -rootless option on/off
>
Easy to talk about... but still takes many hours to implement.
Harold
> cheers
> biju
>
> PS: control box menu :-
> the menu we see when we right click a taskbar item.
> to do "Restore", "Move", "Size", "Close" etc.
>
>
> --- Harold L Hunt II <huntharo at msu dot edu> wrote:
>
>>Early,
>>
>>Early Ehlinger wrote:
>>
>>>Sorry for the repost - It's been a few days and I haven't seen my original
>>>post show up on the newsserver, so....
>>>
>>>OK,
>>>
>>>Just installed latest cygwin+Xfree86. With the -multiwindow option in place
>>>it's *extremely* close to what I really want, which is an X server that
>>>really feels like it's a part of Windows. Right now it still betrays the
>>>fact that it sits on top of cygwin, which is a shame, IMHO.
>>>
>>>Here are the two things that I think keep it from being exactly dead-on:
>>>
>>>1. Root Window is still there.
>>>
>>>Ideally, when -multiwindow is used, no root window would be visible at all.
>>>No icon in the taskbar, nothing. I suppose a tray icon would be acceptible,
>>>but would certainly not be preferable. My reasoning for this is that
>>>Windows already has a root window (the desktop) and to be fully integrated,
>>>X programs should behave like Windows programs and use it. Or at least,
>>>they should *appear* to use it. Bottom line, get rid of/hide the root
>>>window in -multiwindow mode and you've made a *huge* step forward.
>>>
>>
>>Ideally, you will be spending a few hours looking at hiding the root
>>window. :) Search the mailing list archives for information on why it
>>is not hidden yet. Also note that MultiWindow mode is still
>>experimental. That is, it is not complete.
>>
>>
>>>Another consequence of this issue is that Cygwin/XFree86 shows up in the
>>>alt+tab list even though you don't do anything with it directly.
>>>
>>>2. Applications have the wrong icons
>>>
>>>Sure, now I've got my apps all running on the honest-to-goodness Windows
>>>desktop, but they all have the X icon rather than the icons that they would
>>>have on an actual X desktop (e.g., the one in Linux). This is more of a
>>>cosmetic issue than a functional one, so I'd say that it should get less
>>>priority than the first issue above.
>>>
>>
>>This wouldn't be too tough to implement, but I haven't got time for it.
>>
>>
>>>If somebody wants to point me to the general location in XWin's source, I
>>>wouldn't mind taking a crack at implementing a fix for both of these issues.
>>>
>>
>>First, check the Contributor's Guide, which tells you how to get the
>>source, the architecture of the server (doesn't talk about MultiWindow
>>mode), and how to build the source:
>>
>>http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/
>>
>>
>>Perhaps you are using Cygwin/XFree86 for commercial purposes... if that
>>is the case then I know that either myself, Kensuke Matsuzaki (the
>>developer of MultiWindow mode), or others may be interested in working
>>on these features for a fee. Let us know if you are interested,
>>otherwise we will assume that you are not interested.
>>
>>Harold
>>
>>
>>>Thanks in advance
>
>
>
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