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Re: X server acting funny when displaying remote KDE session


 --- Alexander Gottwald
<alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de> schrieb: 
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Stefan Heinzmann wrote:
[...]
> > If so, wouldn't it be a good idea to
> > add it to the standard distribution? Apart from the
> > convenience for Windows users, I really think this layout
> is
> > brilliant for both multi-language work and programming.
> 
> I'd support that. But someone (you?) has to create that
> map. 

Fair enough. What do I need to know (read) in order to create
that map? Once created where do I put it? Where do I need to
send it to? Is there coordination with KDE/Gnome/Motif/...
groups necessary or is it just an X issue?

> AFAIK KDE has the possibility to set the keyboard layout
> (which is 
> just a frontend to setxkbmap functionality) and to bind
> actions 
> to special keys.  

> > Setting the
> > keyboard mapping in KDE means that I get the same mapping
> > regardless whether I am logged in locally or remotely,
> > irrespective of the actual keyboard that is connected.
> Here
> > on my little network the Linux box has a german keyboard
> > while the Windows/cygwin box has a US keyboard. And what
> good
> > is it that you have to configure the keyboard in several
> > different places? I think I need to post to the KDE
> mailing
> > lists...
> 
> The first steps with international keyboard layouts were
> nearly 
> the same. We distributed static map for each layout which
> had to be 
> applied with xmodmap. For remote access (and access to the
> layout
> in the login screen) we modified the xdm config scripts to
> load the 
> keymap on xdm startup. But the only real solution was the
> server
> based setting via xkb.
> But the KDE approach is closer to the desktop experience
> most 
> users had expected.

Most "desktop" users probably are ignorant of the possibility
of remote sessions. I can see that KDE wants to look like
Windows or a Mac in this respect in order to make people feel
at home. But it becomes plain wrong and confusing when you
have a remote session. And it can't just be a frontend for
the X tools because I get a display of the layout in the
taskbar at the bottom, and I doubt that they bother asking
the (remote) X server for that info.

Remote terminals have other caveats, too. What time do you
want displayed on your screen, for example? The time of the
computer that runs your programs or the time of your own
location? If you connect to a computer in a different time
zone those will be different. In our global village you may
not even know where the application server is that is
currently executing your code. So wouldn't it be a good idea
to make the X server maintain a local timezone setting which
can be queried by the client?

But I'm digressing again...

Cheers
Stefan

> bye
> 	ago 
> -- 
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