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File permissions not rx for group in /bin


I've read through the various permission documents
to find the explanation and tried Google without
figuring this one out.  Hopefully it is very simple.

I have an old cygwin install that I was upgrading
to the latest 1.5.  I find that the files in /bin
are mode 700 rather than 750 on my other installations.
The setup.exe is set to "All Users" although perhaps
some time in the dark past it might not have been.

This means that users other than the one installing
cygwin can't use it.  Is there some magic to make that
work properly?

e.g. On the "bad" install you see permissions like this:
 -rwx------+ 1 jim Users 471040 May  3 06:26 /bin/bash.exe
and on the "good" install you see permissions like this:
 -rwxr-x---+ 1 jim Users 471040 May  3 06:26 /bin/bash.exe

My umask is 0022 on both.

cygcheck output is attached.

Thanks - Jim
Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Sun Aug 17 10:41:42 2008

Windows XP Professional Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2

Path:	c:\Jim\bin
	c:\WINDOWS\system32
	c:\WINDOWS
	c:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
	c:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTSystem\
	c:\Program Files\vim\vim63
	C:\cygwin\bin

Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (nontsec)
UID: 1005(jim)      GID: 513(None)
513(None)           544(Administrators) 545(Users)

Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (ntsec)
UID: 1005(jim)      GID: 513(None)
513(None)           544(Administrators) 545(Users)

SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

PWD = '//mask2/jim/tmp'
HOME = '/cygdrive/c/Jim'

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
  (default) = '/cygdrive'
  cygdrive flags = 0x00000022
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin'
  flags = 0x0000000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin/bin'
  flags = 0x0000000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin/lib'
  flags = 0x0000000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts'
  flags = 0x0000000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options

c:  hd  NTFS     57215Mb  50% CP CS UN PA FC     
e:  cd             N/A    N/A                    

C:\cygwin                          /                         system  binmode
C:\cygwin/bin                      /usr/bin                  system  binmode
C:\cygwin/lib                      /usr/lib                  system  binmode
C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts  system  binmode
.                                  /cygdrive                 system  binmode,cygdrive

Found: C:\cygwin\bin\awk.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cp.exe
Not Found: cpp (good!)
Not Found: crontab
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
Not Found: gcc
Not Found: gdb
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\grep.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\kill.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
Not Found: make
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\mv.exe
Not Found: patch
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\perl.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\rm.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sed.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ssh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\tar.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\test.exe
Not Found: vi
Found: c:\Program Files\vim\vim63\vim.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\vim.exe

  103k 2007/09/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygapr-1-0.dll
   70k 2007/09/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygaprutil-1-0.dll
   61k 2008/04/01 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll
    7k 2006/10/22 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcharset-1.dll
  560k 2008/06/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygclamav-4.dll
   42k 2008/06/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygclamunrar-4.dll
    8k 2008/06/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygclamunrar_iface-4.dll
    7k 2003/10/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypt-0.dll
  846k 2004/12/11 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto-0.9.7.dll
 1057k 2008/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto-0.9.8.dll
  194k 2007/06/30 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcurl-3.dll
  221k 2007/06/30 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcurl-4.dll
   22k 2004/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcygipc-2.dll
  703k 2007/12/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb-4.2.dll
  943k 2007/12/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb-4.5.dll
 1036k 2007/12/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb_cxx-4.2.dll
 1296k 2007/12/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb_cxx-4.5.dll
  118k 2007/04/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexpat-0.dll
  118k 2008/05/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexpat-1.dll
  161k 2007/03/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygfontconfig-1.dll
   40k 2006/11/15 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform-8.dll
   45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll
   35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll
   48k 2003/08/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform7.dll
  462k 2007/05/31 C:\cygwin\bin\cygfreetype-6.dll
   28k 2003/07/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm-3.dll
   19k 2006/11/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm-4.dll
   19k 2003/03/22 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll
   15k 2003/07/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm_compat-3.dll
    8k 2006/11/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm_compat-4.dll
   94k 2006/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggettextlib-0-15.dll
   14k 2006/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggettextpo-0.dll
  182k 2006/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggettextsrc-0-15.dll
  219k 2008/03/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggmp-3.dll
  288k 2008/03/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggmpxx-3.dll
   17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll
   29k 2003/08/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll
   25k 2008/01/04 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory6.dll
  271k 2007/08/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygicons-0.dll
  976k 2006/10/22 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll
   22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll
   37k 2003/08/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll
   31k 2005/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-3.dll
   31k 2006/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-8.dll
  124k 2006/11/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg-62.dll
  119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll
   83k 2007/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmagic-1.dll
   21k 2006/11/15 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu-8.dll
   26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll
   20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll
   29k 2003/08/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu7.dll
   20k 2006/12/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygminires.dll
  121k 2008/03/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmp-3.dll
   67k 2006/11/15 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++-8.dll
  156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll
  175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll
  237k 2006/11/15 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses-8.dll
  226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll
  202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll
  224k 2003/08/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses7.dll
  104k 2008/05/14 C:\cygwin\bin\cygneon-27.dll
   12k 2006/11/15 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel-8.dll
   15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll
   12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll
   19k 2003/08/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel7.dll
  150k 2008/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre-0.dll
  303k 2008/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcrecpp-0.dll
    7k 2008/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix-0.dll
 1224k 2007/07/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygperl5_8.dll
  226k 2006/11/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll
   22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll
  108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll
  148k 2003/08/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll
  155k 2008/01/04 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline6.dll
  118k 2007/06/27 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssh2-1.dll
  219k 2008/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl-0.9.8.dll
  138k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_client-1-0.dll
   32k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_delta-1-0.dll
   26k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_diff-1-0.dll
   14k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_fs-1-0.dll
  127k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_fs_base-1-0.dll
   87k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_fs_fs-1-0.dll
   11k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_ra-1-0.dll
   92k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_ra_dav-1-0.dll
   19k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_ra_local-1-0.dll
   61k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_ra_svn-1-0.dll
  109k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_repos-1-0.dll
  159k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_subr-1-0.dll
  174k 2008/06/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygsvn_wc-1-0.dll
   22k 2008/02/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwrap-0.dll
   65k 2006/10/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll
 1829k 2008/06/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll
    Cygwin DLL version info:
        DLL version: 1.5.25
        DLL epoch: 19
        DLL bad signal mask: 19005
        DLL old termios: 5
        DLL malloc env: 28
        API major: 0
        API minor: 156
        Shared data: 4
        DLL identifier: cygwin1
        Mount registry: 2
        Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
        Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
        Program options name: Program Options
        Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
        Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
        Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
        Cygdrive default prefix: 
        Build date: Thu Jun 12 19:34:46 CEST 2008
        CVS tag: cr-0x5f1
        Shared id: cygwin1S4


Service             : sshd
Display name        : CYGWIN sshd
Current State       : Stopped
Command             : /usr/sbin/sshd -D


Cygwin Package Information
Package                 Version
_update-info-dir        00741-1
alternatives            1.3.30c-2
ash                     20040127-3
base-files              3.7-1
base-passwd             2.2-1
bash                    3.2.39-19
bc                      1.06-2
binutils                20080523-1
bzip2                   1.0.5-2
chere                   1.0-1
clamav                  0.93.1-1
clamav-db               0.93.1-1
clear                   1.0-2
coreutils               6.10-1
crypt                   1.1-1
csih                    0.1.4-1
curl                    7.16.3-1
cvs                     1.11.22-1
cygipc                  2.03-2
cygrunsrv               1.34-1
cygutils                1.3.2-1
cygwin                  1.5.25-15
cygwin-doc              1.4-4
diffutils               2.8.7-1
e2fsprogs               1.35-3
editrights              1.01-2
enscript                1.6.4-2
expat                   2.0.1-1
expect                  20030128-1
file                    4.21-1
fileutils               4.1-3
findutils               4.4.0-1
fontconfig              2.4.1-5
gawk                    3.1.6-1
gdbm                    1.8.3-8
ghostscript             8.62-2
ghostscript-base        8.62-2
ghostscript-fonts-other 6.0-1
ghostscript-fonts-std   8.11-1
grep                    2.5.1a-4
groff                   1.18.1-2
gzip                    1.3.12-2
inetutils               1.5-4
jim-user                0.0.1-2
jim-user-min            0.0.1-2
jpeg                    6b-12
keychain                2.6.8-1
less                    382-1
libapr1                 1.2.11-1
libaprutil1             1.2.10-1
libbz2_1                1.0.5-2
libcharset1             1.11-1
libclamav4              0.93.1-1
libcurl3                7.15.4-2
libcurl4                7.16.3-1
libdb4.2                4.2.52.5-2
libdb4.5                4.5.20.2-2
libexpat0               1.95.8-2
libexpat1               2.0.1-1
libexpat1-devel         2.0.1-1
libfontconfig1          2.4.1-5
libfreetype26           2.3.4-2
libgdbm                 1.8.0-5
libgdbm-devel           1.8.3-8
libgdbm3                1.8.3-3
libgdbm4                1.8.3-8
libgettextpo0           0.15-1
libgmp3                 4.2.2-1
libiconv                1.11-1
libiconv2               1.11-1
libintl1                0.10.40-1
libintl2                0.12.1-3
libintl3                0.14.5-1
libintl8                0.15-1
libjpeg-devel           6b-12
libjpeg62               6b-12
libjpeg6b               6b-8
libncurses-devel        5.5-3
libncurses5             5.2-1
libncurses6             5.2-8
libncurses7             5.3-4
libncurses8             5.5-3
libneon27               0.28.2-1
libpcre                 4.1-2
libpcre0                7.6-2
libpng12                1.2.12-1
libpng12-devel          1.2.12-1
libpopt0                1.6.4-4
libreadline4            4.1-2
libreadline5            4.3-5
libreadline6            5.2.12-10
libssh2_1               0.15-1
libwrap0                7.6-4
login                   1.9-7
man                     1.6e-1
minires                 1.01-1
mktemp                  1.5-4
ncurses                 5.5-3
netcat                  1.10-2
openssh                 5.0p1-1
openssl                 0.9.8h-1
perl                    5.8.8-4
procps                  3.2.7-1
readline                5.2.12-10
rebase                  2.4.4-1
rsync                   2.6.9-2
run                     1.1.10-1
rxvt                    20050409-7
sed                     4.1.5-2
sh-utils                2.0.15-5
shutdown                1.7-1
smartmontools           5.38-1
subversion              1.4.6-1
tar                     1.20-1
tcltk                   20080420-1
termcap                 20050421-1
terminfo                5.5_20061104-1
texinfo                 4.8a-1
textutils               2.0.21-2
time                    1.7-1
tzcode                  2008a-1
unison                  2.10.2-4
unzip                   5.52-2
util-linux              2.13.1-2
vim                     7.1-1
which                   2.19-1
zip                     2.32-2
zlib                    1.2.3-2
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