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Re: Where to find a reliable provider of CygwinX?
On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 10:10:40PM +0100, J?rgen Steensgaard wrote:
>A previous reply informed me that libjpeg62 may be included as an
>obsolete package. I have not checked that out, so the discussion
>including the following should be understood in that context. I have
>not checked whether it actually is available that way.
So, to translate:
Bug report: xemacs is relying on an obsolete dll.
Action Required:
Check with the xemacs package maintainer.
Also, try to track down why setup.exe didn't install the library
automatically.
>I deliberately omitted the identity of the actual provider, since this
>mailinglist is so widely read. Send me a private email-address and I
>shall provide you with the information.
If there is a public mirror which needs to investigated then please send
it here. No one's feelings will be hurt or reputation tarnished.
Again, please send the problematic mirrors here.
Translation:
Potential cockpit error or seriously screwed up mirror.
Action Required:
Determine exactly which mirrors were involved. I will investigate once
those are known.
>The missing presence of X and xinit I experienced by use of 'which' and
>making certain that these were commands in a 1.5-version that is running
>on another computer. In fact I looked in vain for a folder with
>binaries for X. I then switched provider, used an unmodified selection
>of packages and checked that the two commands were present in a relevant
>folder. I have not yet the X-server running.
I can't say for sure if you know this or not but Cygwin/X is not
installed by default. You have to specifically select it. This is
why I'm asking for specific details about what you did to select X
applications.
Translation:
Potential cockpit error or seriously screwed up mirror.
Action Required:
Determine exactly which mirrors were involved. I will investigate once
those are known.
>I used the search facility of setup.exe with libjpeg to find packages,
>none of them showed libjpeg6.2 and subsequently checked with the
>complete name. This was the behaviour observed with two different
>providers. I was not aware of means to disclose obsolete packages.
Translation:
Bug report: You can't search for packages marked obsolete via setup.exe.
Action Required:
I'll ask some of the setup developers if that is by design.
>Another experience that emerge from this discussion is that it seems
>very hard to be believed. It is also very hard to document the details
>of what goes on during installation. Please take than into account when
>you take this as a support experience, which certainly is in line with
>my intentions.
Third person usage aside, you're right. We do not automatically
believe the *interpretation* of someone reporting problems since their
interpretation is likely to be inaccurate. You don't have all of the
facts at your disposal. I do have more than you so I don't
automatically believe you when you claim that a mirror is missing
packages.
For instance, you seem to be under the impression that X is installed by
default. You also seem to think that the fact that you can't find
libjpeg62 via search in setup.exe means that a mirror is out-of-date
when it doesn't mean that. It is likely another problem entirely.
This is why I'm asking for details - to help congeal what is actually
going wrong from your interpretation of what is going on.
cgf
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