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RE: mintty scroll to bottom
On March 05, 2012 6:26 PM Ryan Johnson wrote:
>On 05/03/2012 5:05 AM, Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-ZSW wrote:
>> On March 04, 2012 12:51 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>> On Mar 2 20:20, Andy Koppe wrote:
>>>> On 2 March 2012 08:41, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 1 20:43, Andy Koppe wrote:
>>>>>> On 29 February 2012 12:46, Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-ZSW wrote:
>>>>>>> What is the mintty equivalent to rxvt/xterm's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -si|+si
>>>>>>> Turn on/off scroll-to-bottom on TTY output inhibit;
>>>>>>> resource scrollTtyOutput has opposite effect.
>>>>>> There's no such option. Shift+End will get you back to the current
>>>>>> output after looking at something in the scrollback, as will any
>>>>>> keypress that sends something to the terminal.
>>>>> Any chance to implement this? Automatic scroll-to-bottom is a useful
>>>>> feature, IMHO.
>>>> I disagree. The point of being able to scroll back to earlier output
>>>> is to read and perhaps copy something. When doing that, having the
>>>> scrollback jump back to the bottom without the user asking for it is
>>>> rather unhelpful. The Windows console does this, and I always found it
>>>> really frustrating.
>>> THat's why this is an option in xterm. Every use has another idea how
>>> the terminal should behave in this regard, I guess.
>> I'd also appreciate very much implementing that option. mintty is
>> promoted here as a replacement for rxvt but obviously lacks a functionality
>> I've come to depend on. My use case is a terminal window in which I don't
>> do much but where a lot of background jobs regularly produce output.
>> A quick glance at the window tells me the current status of those jobs.
>> Not with mintty anymore. Same with the classic use case tail -f logfile.
>What you describe above sounds more like mintty allowing a visible "end
>of output" to scroll off the bottom without following it, a behavior
>I've never observed and which would arguably be a bug.
That's not what I said.
>
>When I fire up something that produces copious output (gcc bootstrap,
>compile emacs, etc.) mintty scrolls to track end-of-output unless I
>purposefully scroll upward
Right, same here. Turning on scroll-to-bottom would change that. It
scrolls to bottom immediately.
>(in which case I'd prefer it to stay put long
>enough to read/copy the text rather than immediately jumping me back to
>end-of-output).
That depends on what I am doing in such a terminal. I might have a
tail -f /var/log/messages & in that session on a system with low
syslog activity. I want to be notified immediately if there is
output and don't mind being interrupted.
>Once the scrollbar is set back to bottom, it again
>tracks end-of-output.
Correct. And that's the step I want to skip. The si-option does
exactly that.
>
>Am I missing something? Or do your background jobs just produce output
>really infrequently compared to 'make all'?
In this case yes, but I also like scroll-to-bottom if there's more output.
>The latter is the only way I
>can see "reading stuff from the past" and "scroll-to-bottom" coexisting
>peacefully
They usually won't. Thatâs why this should be an option and not the
default.
Michael