Re: [ECOS] Re: Is eCos project still alive?

[Brian Austin <brian dot austin at cirrus dot com>]

Large technology companies release snapshots of OSS all the time.


Are you trying to promote something "better"?

troll.



On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 04:44 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2007-12-13, Loginov Alexander <aloginov@asmpt.com> wrote:
> 
> > The question was very simple: why is the latest eCos release 5
> > years old?
> 
> Because that's the last time somebody paid developers to do the
> work involved in a public "release".
> 
> > Don't tell me about snapshots.
> 
> If you don't want to hear answers, then don't ask questions.
> 
> > This is just for eCos itself, for its further development,
> 
> Nonsense.
> 
> > because snapshots are always supposed to have bugs,
> 
> Utter bullshit.  They do have bugs, but so do releases. Neither
> is "supposed to have bugs".
> 
> > sometimes even intentional, to help to debug other bugs.
> 
> Bah. Nobody intentionally checks in bugs.
> 
> > Have you ever heard about commercial companies that install
> > the latest Linux snapshots to their offices or to the
> > expensive products? Never. Just stable releases. 
> 
> There are no "stable releases" of Linux any more.  Active
> development is being done in the "stable" tree.  There are no
> more stable and development versions of Linux like there used
> to be.
> 
> > I guess, you are not from the world of the commercial products
> > development.
> 
> On the contrary, we are all from the world of commercial
> products development.  That's what eCos is used for: developing
> commercial products.  I've been using eCos to develop
> commercial products for 7+ years, and the lack of "releases"
> hasn't been even the least bit of a problem.
> 
> If you feel you're not capable of working from a CVS repository
> and really want a "released" version, then that's what eCosPro
> is:
> 
>   http://www.ecoscentric.com/ecos/ecospro.shtml
> 
> > The considerations here are a bit different than that in the
> > world of open-source software community.
> 
> No, not really.
> 
> > By the way, Linux is not RTOS and never will be. We have very
> > tough hard real-time requirements. So it is not for us. Many
> > great RTOSes in aviationa and military actually distinguish
> > between privilege levels (QNX, Integrity, LynuxOS, pikeOS,
> > etc). MMU usage is Ok in real-time if you use it properly (no
> > page swapping, page locking, etc.).  
> 
> Perhaps one of those RTOSes will meet your privilege management
> requirement better than eCos.
> 
> -- 
> Grant
> 
> 



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