Re: build/1411: Build of gdb-6.0 on hppa1.1-hp-hpux10.20 fails

["John David Anglin" <dave at hiauly1 dot hia dot nrc dot ca>]

The following reply was made to PR build/1411; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "John David Anglin" <dave@hiauly1.hia.nrc.ca>
To: mec.gnu@mindspring.com (Michael Elizabeth Chastain)
Cc: gdb-gnats@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: build/1411: Build of gdb-6.0 on hppa1.1-hp-hpux10.20 fails
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 04:25:33 -0500 (EST)

 > Calm down.
 
 Ok ;)
 
 > If you read gdb-testers, you will see that I recently reported test
 > results from hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.11.
 > 
 > And if you read gdb-patches, you will see that I wrote, tested, and
 > submitted a patch to fix a build failure on hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.11
 > in _rl_vi_change_mbchar_case.
 
 Great.
 
 > I can't QA platforms that are not available to me.  HP doesn't have any
 > hpux 10.20 machines in their test drive program.
 
 I don't think I want to open up the 10.20 machine that I have at NRC.
 It's dedicated to an on going project and disk space is somewhat limited.
 
 I would be willing to provides accounts on my personal machines
 
  C200 hpux11.00
  A500 hpux11.11
  C3750 hppa-linux
 
 if that would help.
 
 > Would you like to run the gdb test suite regularly on hpux 10.20 and
 > report the results to gdb-testers?
 
 Within limits.  I'm pretty much swamped by my current activities
 maintaining GCC.  I haven't had the time to do much with binutils.
 
 > Would you like to give an account on an hpux 10.20 so that I could do
 > that?
 
 I don't think I want to open up the 10.20 machine that I have at NRC.
 It's dedicated to an on going project and disk space is somewhat limited.
 
 I would be willing to provides accounts on my personal machines if that
 would help.  They are:
 
  C200 hpux11.00
  A500 hpux11.11
  C3750 hppa-linux
 
 It might also be possible to get access to PA-RISC systems running linux
 at HP.
 
 > Yes, I do.  I don't have access to an 11i v1.5 system and I'm not likely
 > to get one through HP.  I do have access to 11i and 11i v1.6.
 
 The Open Source Group at HP has a supply of older systems that they
 are willing to give to PA-RISC developpers.  They may also have some
 itanium systems available.  The level of system that they send seems
 to depend on how they assess a developper's potential.  I could enquire.
 
 > I want to remove support hppa*-hp-hpux10.*, yes.  And I want to
 > support hppa*-hp-hpux11.* at the same level I support i686-pc-linux-gnu.
 
 Excellent goal.
 
 > I am sick of gdb having a long list of targets that used to work in some
 > indefinite past, but that are no longer even BUILT, let alone tested,
 > let alone the tests analyzed.  I am attacking this problem in two ways.
 > First, I am picking up platforms one at a time and bringing up the
 > support level on them.  Second, I am looking to broom out things that we
 > can't do.
 > 
 > I can't fix any problems with gdb on hpux 10.20.  I can't even promise
 > not to make it worse.
 
 Right.  I recognize that it's a lot of work keeping a target going
 for a package as complex as gdb volunteers with the appropriate skill
 level are hard to find.
 
 > > GCC first deprecates a target, then removes it in the following release
 > > if sufficient interest hasn't been expressed to revive it.  This seems
 > > like a good model.  GCC still supports 10.X, so you will be leading GCC
 > > if you drop support for 10.X at this point in time.
 > 
 > I spoke unclearly.  My plan is: when Andrew comes back from his trip,
 > I will propose to obsolete the hppa*-hp-hpux10.* targets, using the
 > normal gdb obsoletion procedure.  If anyone would like to volunteer to
 > support this platform then that would be great.
 
 I would like to volunteer but unfortunately I just don't have the time.
 The best that I can do is to do occasional gdb builds and fix simple bugs.
 
 I still find the hpux10.20 platform that I have very useful and stable.
 It typically runs about a year between reboots (no more patches to
 install ;).
 
 > And we may already be leading gcc, because gdb already doesn't build
 > on native hppa1.1-hp-hpux10.20.  I dunno if gcc 3.3.2 builds on that
 > platform or not.
 
 <http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-testresults/2003-11/msg00100.html>
 
 Dave
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