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Hi, if you want to know what I've doing during the Christmas days, have a look at http://www.ping.de/sites/zagadka/guile-gtk/ There is guile-gtk-0.8 which should work fine with gtk+-0.99.0, but otherwise not much has changed compared to the latest versions in the Gnome distribution. I merely wanted to bring the web page up to date. The main time killer was (and still is) a Gtk+ version with modified ref counting of the GtkObjects. You will also find a suitable Guile-gtk version. This is not my last word on ref counting but I wanted to show you what I have so far. Please try it out. It will be bit hard to actually find all the changes I have made, tho. Hmm, diff is your friend. And let me take this opportunity to praise checkergcc. It is a truly great tool. Recommended. Have fun, Marius