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>> And I've never heard about attempts to interface Athena or >> Lesstif with guile. What makes those GUI toolkits that bad >> that guile should not bother with them? There aren't any real problems, just not much demand. I hacked together a XT interface using ffcall and dynamic linking that's pretty low level. I was really trying to add pointers and arbitrary foreign function calls to an event display. The Xt interface was a test bed since it's a large library with lot's of data types. I didn't think the display was terribly satisfactory so I dropped it. I think the real "problem" is that gtk, Tk, etc are so pretty that XT just gets skipped. Someday I plan to bundle the pointer and function interface, but I never seem to have the time. Cheers, Clark