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I agree we are getting too far off topic here, so let me just state some references to articles I believe demonstrates that the java model (with bytecodes and all) to be fundamentally unsecure. The work is being by the Secure Internet Programming group at Princeton. Their web address is: http://www.cs.princeton.edu/sip/ The article I have been reading is "Java Security: From HotJava to Netscape and Beyond" located at http://www.cs.princeton.edu/sip/pub/secure96.html ---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Christian Lynbech | Telebit Communications A/S Fax: +45 8628 8186 | Fabrik 11, DK-8260 Viby J Phone: +45 8628 8177 + 28 | email: chl@tbit.dk --- URL: http://www.telebit.dk ---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Hit the philistines three times over the head with the Elisp reference manual. - petonic@hal.com (Michael A. Petonic)