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If one wants to translate perl stuff from W. Setzers perl curses module , would one use that module (i.e. perlxs generated stubs) or translate perl calls to scheme calls using guile stubs for curses, e.g. the ones that i have preliminarily written? A problem is that several setzer's calls appear not to be safe w.r.t memory allocation and garbage collection, and those problematic calls i don't know yet how to write substitutes for. Klaus Schilling