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Re: Various problems and/or questions on Insight 5.2.1
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 11:24:48AM -0400, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:20:40PM -0400, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
If you do go this course, might I recomend that you use Cygwin/XFree
for the gui front end?
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Christopher Faylor wrote:
We really can't require people to install X in order to get a graphical
debugger for cygwin.
Please understand that all I'm trying to do is help facilitate a
reasonable solution to a current problem. I mean no disrespect or
malice in my intentions. Can we please keep this friendly, as I know
this subject tends to bring out emotional debate.
I've put back the part of your email where you suggested that using
XFree86 was an alternative way to get insight working on Windows.
You are inexplicably inferring some kind of emotional response from my
simple statement of fact. You would be well advised to stick to actual
issues and avoid admonitions based on supposition.
No actually I'm referring to the previous times this was
discussed on the cygwin mailing list. Each time, things got
a little ugly, my intent was to head this type of reaction
off at the pass. I was only trying to be polite.
I suppose but, while I can't direct people's time, it sure seems like
focusing on fixing the native insight is a much much higher priority.
I agree, having a working insight would be nice. Still, you did tell
people that further discussion of this should be done on this list.
So, discuss away. I think I made my end of the views clear. That's how
discussions work, right?
One would hope so, still I feel like I had to justify my post.
That is what I'm doing. My intent is not to de-rail the goal of a
working insight.
Well, IMO, suggesting that cygwin users would want to install X in order
to do debugging really is rather of a derailment of the issue at hand.
Jeeze, it isn't like asking for 100MB space, or even 10.
However if you read the entire post, I was recanting my
original position on that idea.
Anyhow, after a brief discussion with Chuck, having two versions would
be the best compromise.
I doubt that few in the insight mailing list know who "Chuck" is or why
his opinion would hold any weight. However, for the record, I think it
is clear that quoting "and so and so agrees with me" doesn't really
advance the discussion very much.
That was primarily aimed at you, you take it as you wish...
I really don't see what X has to do with the discussion of fixing
tcl/tk/insight. It seems to me like you are dragging an entirely
different issue into this discussion.
On the contrary, it has a lot to do with fixing tcl/tk's
functionality in cygwin. It also has to do with fixing the
functionality in a way that a slow, but growing segment of
the userbase desires. Also, I was further elaborating in
response to Keith's statements.
If I wasn't clear about this before, then let me be clear.
My original post was a suggestion on how things could be
improved if there was a plan to rework the tcl/tk
implementation.
Cheers,
Nicholas