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FW: failure notice



An ITD machine which is used to relay mail for other mail servers on
campus is on the ORBS list.  Some of the campus mail servers are badly
configured and are open to spam relay, which is why our machine got on
the ORBS list.  Unfortunately, we do not have control over how different
departments and groups manage their mail machines.  The system
administrators of the faulty machines were notified of the problem a
few months ago.  Some have fixed things and others haven't.

The system administrators of the ITD mail machines are working on a
long-term solution and we hope this will be completed soon.  For now, you
can get around the problem by sending your messages via Pine on the ITD
Login machines.  We are sorry about the inconvenience this is causing.

From what you say, if you have a functioning sendmail, you can use that
machine instead of the ITD machine which is on the ORBS list.  Replace
smtp.itd.umich.edu with your server and give it a try.  You may need to
allow mail from your client machine to the server.  I'm copying the 
address you tried to send to on this message.

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        Neda Gholizadeh            University of Michigan
        Postmaster Group             postmaster@umich.edu
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From:    "Paul R. Potts" <potts@umich.edu>
Date:    Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:02:58 -0500
Subject: FW: failure notice
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This was working yesterday, but not today. I am using smpt.itd.umich.edu as
my SMTP host. Is there any way I can make this work? It is very frustrating.
We have secured our mail server by installing sendmail 8.10, but now
apparently we can't use it to send mail out except to itself.

Paul

-- 
"I put Sluggo in the sink and gave him some dog food rated 'for small dogs.'
The turtles are more fun if you think of them as very small, very wet dogs."
Paul R. Potts - Technology Group Leader - Health Media Research Lab
Comprehensive Cancer Center - University of Michigan - potts@umich.edu

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From: MAILER-DAEMON@sourceware.cygnus.com
Date: 24 Mar 2000 21:04:11 -0000
To: potts@umich.edu
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at sourceware.cygnus.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<kawa@sourceware.cygnus.com>:

In an effort to cut down on our spam intake we block email from
certain lists and unfortunately you have just discovered the hard
way that sometimes non-spam mail gets caught accidentally.
In most cases you can clear this up by an upgrade to your mail
server or sometimes by getting an erroneous listing removed.
For more information about our use of these lists, see
http://sourceware.cygnus.com/lists.html#rbls

The IP number that I'm denying mail from is 141.211.83.35
The list that you're on is ORBS.  See:
http://www.orbs.org/verify.cgi?address=141.211.83.35
for more information about this list and why you are on it.


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Subject: environment problem
From: "Paul R. Potts" <potts@umich.edu>
To: <kawa@sourceware.cygnus.com>
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Thanks for the suggestion. It is still failing, but failing differently. If
I do this in my code:

Scheme.registerEnvironment();
Scheme myInterpreter = Scheme.getInstance();
myInterpreter . eval (
"(define (exclude lis exc) "+
"(if (null? lis) '() "+
"(if (not (member (car lis) exc)) "+
"(cons (car lis) (exclude (cdr lis) exc)) "+
"(exclude (cdr lis) exc))))" );

I get an unbound symbol exception thrown on "null?" instead of "if"

This seems to be basically a documentation issue, as in, I can't find
anything that explains how to set up an interpreter with an environment and
then use it during the lifetime of my program. All I know is that the
behavior has changed. I can read the source, but that is not ideal because
often evaluating a simple expression results in a big stack.

Paul




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