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Re: IDE?

From: Chris <chris at bitmead dot com>
To: Jim White <jim at pagesmiths dot com>
Cc: kawa at sources dot redhat dot com
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:30:53 +1100
Subject: Re: IDE?
References: <OF46EB5A92.DE7E358D-ON85256B1F.00644036@srs.gov> <5.1.0.14.2.20011216092847.030876e0@mail.pagesmiths.com>

>   (rather than AWT's proxy approach they have a thin JNI layer that 
> simply maps the OS's GUI API to Java and then all the rest of the 
> platform specific code is in Java). 


If it's not pure Java it has a bunch of practical problems in the real 
world.

> The idea that any free Java will have Swing is very unlikely.  Due to 
> Sun's licensing, the massive size of Swing, the impracticality of 
> implementing from the API or spec, 

That sounds absurdly pessimistic to me. Much more difficult projects 
than this have come to fruition such as WINE and Lesstif.

> and Swing's terribly bad performance  

JBuilder is Swing and is plenty fast enough.

 > (which is limited by its design and will not be getting any faster)

Every time Intel releases a new chip it gets faster. 

>  impossible to develop the quality GUI applications that the market 
> demands in Swing, it can't be done on top of AWT at all, 

JBuilder is not a quality GUI application?

References:
- IDE?
  - From: randal.sims
- Re: IDE?
  - From: Jim White

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